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Bill Rogers

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I've set up a William Rogers disambiguation page and find there's a golfer Bill Rogers. Can anyone supply any details on him so I can add to my list? I've changed the link on this page to Bill Rogers (golfer) in the interim. PedanticallySpeaking 19:12, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

2022 Open is not at Royal St. George's.

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Perhaps the correct course for the current year should be on site. 2A01:4C8:1428:CF92:1:2:55DE:BE28 (talk) 16:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Open Championship → The Open – I've looked everywhere on the site and for the life of me I can't find it called "The Open Championship" anywhere. It is certainly often called the "British Open" but not officially "The Open Championship." Sponsors like Mastercard and The Open Accommodation Bureau or the BBC use "The Open." It should not be the title of the article but simply an alternate name in use. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC) Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you realize the link you gave also says the U.S. Open Championship? Do we move that article also? Nothing on the The Open website uses The Open Championship... nor do they sell anything with it. Google is overwhelming in "The Open" and "The British Open." I'm not sure what it takes to convince people but this really looked like a no-brainer as far as usage. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is that there's a large number of uses of "The Open Championship" https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/61061633 https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/61227206 https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/schedule.html https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/the-open-championship.html etc etc, so the usage issue is not clear cut IMO Nigej (talk) 11:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So what we are saying is that because the states / North America has a larger population and since they call the tournament by a wrong name and since Google hits are the world standard. Then this "factual" webpage should go against the only official name for the tournament Hamishcm (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hamishcm:How are you figuring that? If you go to the tournament itself all it says everywhere is "The Open". That's it. All over the page "The Open." The webpage itself is "theopen.com". All I asked is since the tournament calls itself "The Open", google listings call the event "The Open", and the BBC calls it "The Open", and it's the primary topic for the name, why should it be at the "The Open Championship"? With all the decapitalization going on right now at Wikipedia, the word "Championship" is probably going to be downgraded to lowercase anyway. It just seemed to me that WP:COMMONNAME would tell us to use "The Open" for a title and then also referred to as The Open Championship or the British Open. That's why a brought up the move request. If it stays it stays. I enjoy watching golf, especially the four majors, but it's not my forte. It just seemed like strange title when all I ever seem to hear is "The Open" from announcers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:03, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The suspicion is that the the reason is that the broadcasters have a contractual requirement to use that name. Other parts of the media, not so constrained, do use other terms. Nigej (talk) 05:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We'll be confusing two issues if we're not careful. One is the name of the article. The other is whether it is/was "often referred to as ... the British Open". These are completely unrelated and the issue here is the former, the name of the article. Nigej (talk) 17:53, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On the "British Open" topic, see https://www.smh.com.au/sport/golf/why-british-open-would-be-wrong-to-close-door-on-norman-20220428-p5agva.html "Why British Open would be wrong to close door on Norman" from Australia. Nigej (talk) 18:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Per WP:NATURAL it should be "The Open." Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fyunck, sorry you misunderstood my point. It will only ever have the name "THE OPEN" Hamishcm (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prove it. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:27, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No chance that's its only name. It's called The Open, The Open championship, and the British Open. It calls itself "The Open" and I felt that is the most prevalent title... hence my asking for the title move. Consensus can certainly keep the lesser used title but the closer will want to know the reason we should use a lesser used title. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To me it's still a matter of WP:PRECISION. As noted above, "The Open" could apply to a whole host of events, although this is probably the primary topic. However to me "The Open Championship" most clearly defines this particular event, per "Natural disambiguation" (WP:QUALIFIER) Nigej (talk) 06:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Except that "The Open" redirects to here, and every bit of merchandise sold for the event by the official tournament also uses "The Open", so it seems that is the most precise term. I understand your point but I guess we just disagree on this. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My point really is that if you went to Australia and talked to a golfer there about "The Open", they wouldn't instantly know whether you're referring to this event or the Australia version. However if you said "The Open Championship" or the "British Open" they would. So to me "The Open" is less precise. Nigej (talk) 07:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If they would get confused by "The Open" then for the same reason they would get confused by "The Open championship." Only the "British Open" would really be more precise. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:18, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect they don't refer to their own event as "The Open Championship" since the normal short forms of the "The Australian Open Championship" are "The Australian Open" and "the Open" (when the context is clear). Nigej (talk) 08:44, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have heard people call it the st andrews open....and since we are just making crap names up. I think you should also include this name. Hamishcm (talk) 21:16, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who's making stuff up. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps most golfers call it the The Open nowadays, but the truth is that for a 100 years and more the majority of golfers around the world called it the British Open. We're simply reflecting that. Whether its a naff name or not, is not for us to decide. Nigej (talk) 05:33, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are reflecting f all. By misinforming, all you are doing is encouraging more people to be wrong. Let stick to facts... Hamishcm (talk) 21:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Take your own advice. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:37, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Newspapers.com comes up with 2,156,314 matches to "British Open", Trove (Australia) comes up with 33,716, Papers Past (New Zealand) has 8,380. The idea that Wikipedia, an encyclopedia, should air-brush this widely-used name from history doesn't make sense. Nigej (talk) 05:33, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How many hits for the non made up name? Hamishcm (talk) 15:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Olso, any credible media sources? Hamishcm (talk) 15:56, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you've been socking under 31.121.4.10 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from the name of the Tournament....... Hamishcm (talk) 20:53, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning what? --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Reason it is called The Open

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Is this sentence accurate: "It is called The Open because it is in theory "open" to all, i.e. professional and amateur golfers".

In theory is it open to all or is it in theory just open to all male golfers? (Fran Bosh (talk) 12:42, 21 July 2023 (UTC))[reply]

It is open to female golfers too Jopal22 (talk) 13:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks. (Fran Bosh (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2023 (UTC))[reply]

"preview page" pop-up not working

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The "preview page" pop-up is not working for the link to the Wikipedia page for "The R&A" (at the bottom of the first paragraph). The little box shows up but it is blank. Kitchenknight (talk) 17:23, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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